Soul in the Game: A Conversation with Vitaliy Katsenelson on the Talking Billions Podcast

I was recently interviewed by Bogumil Baranowski on the Talking Billions Podcast about how I stay grounded in volatile markets and the key principles guiding my investing.

Soul in the Game - A Conversation with Vitaliy Katsenelson on Talking Billions Podcast

I’m excited to share this conversation I had with Bogumil Baranowski. We talked about ideas from my book, Soul in the Game: The Art of a Meaningful Life, exploring my early life in Soviet Russia and the profound contrast between socialism and capitalism—lessons I believe are especially relevant today.

We discussed the unique perspectives shaped by being immigrants, the powerful influence of balancing European ways of savoring life with American entrepreneurial drive, and why aligning your life with something meaningful—what I call having “soul in the game”—matters so deeply.

You’ll also hear insights on investing, particularly the critical role that people and management play, how to deal constructively with investing pain, and why the best investing ideas rarely come from long hours stuck behind a desk.

I hope you’ll find this talk as enjoyable and insightful as I did. Enjoy!

I recently sat down with Bogumil Baranowski for a wide-ranging conversation about my approach to investing, the current market landscape, and the mindset I use to stay grounded when things get turbulent. We didn’t just talk stocks—we also touched on the personal philosophies and mental frameworks that shape how I see the world. If you’re curious about how I navigate uncertainty and stay focused on the long game, give our discussion a watch.

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